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♪ ♪ ♪ >> good evening and welcome to "tucker carlson tonight" i'm mark steyn in for tucker. he is sleeping off his boxing day back but he will join us later to discuss the ongoing collapse of men in america. first another liberal media meltdown. taking the opportunity to turn an american visi a preside. accuse the president of turning the post christmas visit into a political event. >> from a national security perspective, for all the reasons that you just listed, the president should have stayed home.
>> the reason he went now is that he couldn't go to mar-a-lago because the government was shut down. he is like the grinch. instead of i'm being honest. >> we should also be concerned that mr. trump once again used a captive audience of american heroes to push his unpopular domestic agenda. even in doing something right he figures out a way to sow chaos. >> it took far too long especially compared to president obama who visited troops in iraq in his first three months in office. >> over at cnn, attacking the president wasn't enough, they decided to attack the troops as well. >> the pool of reporters traveling said that the troops brought the hats with them, including one hat that said trump 2020. we have to see if that actually proves to be the case. the question is if they brought them or if the president brought them, what commanders allow you had that to really happen because this is very much against military policy and regulation. troops are not supposed to
be involved in political activities. the u.s. military is not a political force. >> it's completely inappropriate for the troops to do. this. >> mark: back when presidential candidate barack obama signed memorabilia for the troops back in 2008. he had a d after his name though instead of an r. thankfully not everybody has lost their mind. some liberals scolded the media for their hysteria. >> it's good that he went to see the troops. important that he went to do it. he was criticized for it obviously. they wanted to address that and so i should -- we should give him credit where credit is due. >> it just sends such a strong message that the trumps love our military, support our military and what a great time to do it. >> mark: joe concha writes about media for the hill he joins us now. joe, is this a good look for the media? why are serving soldiers in
a war zone bringing particular hats to an event on base in a combat zone at christmas? >> well, the optics around that, mark, are horrific. what you are doing here is it's okay to go after the president in terms of policy or the things that he says. once you start attacking the people that voted for him or military people that are obviously serving overseas during christmas, no less, then you have got a problem. you have to ask yourself this question, mark. let's say honestly like you pointed out as i did in my column today on the hill, if president obama, as he did in 2008, signed a hope and change t-shirts, do you really think any news organization would have gone ahead with that story? of course they wouldn't have. >> mark: no, i couldn't care less what soldiers in these, frankly god awful situations, because life at a base in iraq stinks. it's not like being in germany where the president
was today. you can't stroll down to town and go to a local march and meet one of the nice german girls or one of the local girls. it's nothing like that. you are stuck in that lousy fortress that you hope is a fortress. and the president comes to visit you. and the preoccupation of the american media is whether hats, the troops chose to take to that event, are somehow some potential crime that they can be pulled up in front of a military court for. i mine, that's -- isn't it. >> it's bonkers. the original narrative we all recall president trump was supposed to be the first president since 2002 to not visit the troops at christmas. once that fell apart when he literally landed in iraq as the story was going up and originally came from nbc, then social media goes nuts. and what happened was the pivot went from oh, yeah, okay. trump went, sure. but what was his motive,
exactly for going? i give you "the washington post," mark. quoting: the president's visit follows months of public pressure for him to spend time with troops deployed to conflicts in the middle east. think about that again. follows months of public pressure in other words we the media got the public riled up to force trump to go to a war zone instead of him just going like every president has done for the past 17 years. >> according to soledad o'brien who is a lovely lady she thought it was actually minutes of public pressure that alyssa milano who actually tweeted as the president was halfway across the ocean why haven't you visited our troops? soledad o'brien gave alyssa milano credit for shaming the president for getting on the plane that he had already gotten on. >> yeah. and what's forgotten in all of this is if you want to go to walter reed, let's say the president was shamed and he goes to walter reed which is close to the white house, then okay you could say it's a last-minute thing. when you go to iraq you kind
of have to plan it in advance. you have to do it weeks in advance for security. air force one has to fly in with shades down and cell phones off and all of that you would think you would see though, however, at least from nbc and others, some remorse, some apology, some arranged hey, we went ahead with this story a little bit too early because we ran a story on christmas saying the president hadn't been to to see the troops at christmas time. people don't mind that sort of transparency from the media. yet, we never see those sort of co concession he is. yet we see the pivot to the negative like we always do in these situations that's why trust in media is this. axios, survey monkey poll just last year 93% of republicans think that the media knowingly creates stories, makes them up. they are false. republicans have always hated the media and don't trust them u 79% of independents, 53% of democrats, each out majority. that's the thing. this is something that's going across the board all parties see egg what's
happening here,. >> as soon as the media called for a special counsel to investigate how those maga hats got to iraq everything will be fine. michelle richie is a former house for policy and communication committee and rachel campos-duffy is a fox contributor and they both join us. raychel, how -- stepping back and looking at this a little more objectively than cnn has done. the troops like the guy. the guy got on with the troops. is there any really political mileage being had going on. >> i had a little bit of a battle myself. first of all i was saying no men and women of uniform shouldn't have gotten the hats signed and been out there with make america great again hats. when you look at the facts it is breaking a rule when it comes to the department of defense guidelines. at the same time, these troops have not seen an american president since
2009. i believe obama was the last one to go visit. so maybe they are not necessarily, you know, showing support for the president or getting his signature because they are republican. maybe -- now, listen, listen. how can you disagree i haven't even finished. the commander is their commander-in-chief. maybe it's not because is he a republican president. maybe they are looking at it like he is a commander-in-chief. we're proud to fight for our country and proud to stand behind our president whether he has an r or d behind his name. i can really care less if the guys do it. as long as they are continuing to protect our national security, have at it. >> mark: rochelle gave that theory more credit than i would think. >> i'm very balanced. >> mark: if you have the misfortune to be spending christmas on one of those forts caught off from life in the middle of the iraqi dessert, who the hell cares what hat you take to a christmas party, basically. >> of course they shouldn't care. the more important question is let's be honest, the
reaction from the troops was very overwhelmingly positive. and it should be. listen, barack obama disseminated our moisture. barack obama -- wait a minute. he cut funding for our military. he put in rules of engagement. >> that's not even. >> wait a minute. >> what does to that have to do with what would are talking about. >> it does have to do? >> how? >> barack obama enacted rules of engagement rochelle, let me fin anyone. evidence enacted rules of engagement that put our military on the battlefield in danger. wait a minute, mark, he did that and they said he was a great commander-in-chief. donald trump goes over and does all of this to not for alyssa milano or the media, he does it because he loves the troops, and they say he is doing it for a photo op. this is a man who loves the military. that's his number one issue. >> mark: okay. how about this as a non-democrat non-republican thing. democrats weren't in favor of the 21st century bush wars as they called them.
>> right. >> right. >> mark: nor was donald trump in 2016. in offense, donald trump is at odds with both democrat policy and republican policy on the middle east, row rochelle. >> he is definitely fighting both sides. the reason the press is attacking on him, the left-leaning press i would say is because of some of the misleading comments that he made when he talked about the pay raises for the military. we know that's not necessarily true. they do get raises but they are not getting the 10% raise. it's going to be 2.6%. way uses media was looking at it and attacking him for his less than knowledgeable education, i guess you could say, on what's really happening there. i have think that him visiting was a good idea there was an article why out "the washington post" that says he was actually scared to go over there. >> he was not skate what would they have had him do? say i'm sorry i'm not
requesting to sign your hat because of the happen act and criticize him oh what a jerk. >> i thought that was perfectly fine. >> mark: there is too much of that. if you are seriously talking about soldiers doing something wrong because they ask their commander-in-chief to sign a hat, then you have flown the coop. >> the reason why the american people hate the press. and by the way the troops love the president because he did sign a bill that he took a lot of flack from the right for signing a big bill that was for funding the military. they love him. >> his whole purpose of being there and this is part of it. i think he also has a lot -- i think there was a part in this segment right before you came to us about this being public pressure. i think it's more political pressure because of him, you know, general kelly and then general mattis and so i think he is really trying to show that has some sort of control of what is happening right now in the middle in iraq. >> why doesn't that criticism come to barack obama? he goes to visit the troops
no. one questions his motives. >> obama is living his best life. >> but there is a double standard and that is what people are talking about, rochelle. hark mark we have got to go, ladies. iraqi is a busy place. you can't blame. >> mark: rochelle and rachel is going to take this to the green room. violence percolating here. now on day six of the government shutdown triggered by congress' revel to fund a wall on the u.s.-mexican border. today the president tweeted, quote: have the democrats finally realized that we desperately need border security and a wall on the southern border? we need to stop drugs, human trafficking, gang members and criminals from coming into our country. and do the dems realize that most of the people not getting paid are democrats? fox washington correspondent rich edison joins us with more on the situation in d.c.
it's all yours. >> good evening, mark. congress officially and briefly gastled in this afternoon. though there is no sign of this shutdown ending any time soon. democrats and the white house are a few billion dollars apart on funding for a wall on the southern border. president trump has returned to the white house after visiting u.s. forces yesterday in iraq. he has just tweeted, quote: this isn't about the wall. everybody knows that a wall will work perfectly in israel the wall works 99.9%. this is only about the dems not letting donald trump and the republicans have a win. they may have the 10 senate votes but we have the issue, border security 2020. in a statement, white house press secretary sarah huckabee sanders says, quote: the president and his team in washington over christmas hoping to negotiate a deal that would stop the dangerous crisis on the border, protect american communities and reopen the government. the democrats decided to go home. she also says the administration offered democrats what she calls a reasonable common sense
solution five days ago. though a spokesperson for house minority leader nancy pelosi says, quote: democrats have offered republicans three option to reopen the government that all include funding for strong, sensible and effective border security but not the president's immoral, ineffective and expensive wall. while in iraq, president trump stressed the funding bill must include money for a border wall. >> the folks are saying can we have some drones. can we have technology. technology is bells and whistles. you have to have a wall. you have to have protection. when you say how long is it going to take? when are they going to say that we need briewts. end this shut town the house the senate and the white house must all agree on the same funding bill. on capitol hill, house freedom caucus chairman mark meadows says the needle has moved towards a very long shutdown. the democrats and republicans appear to talk past one another.
mark? >> mark: thanks a lot, rich. ♪ >> mark: this is a fox news alert. police in california are on the hunt for an unnamed illegal immigrant suspected of murdering a police officer. corporal rono singh an immigrant from fiji was gunned down wednesday morning during a traffic stop. police have released surveillance footage of the suspect and say they believe he is still in the area. we will continue to monitor this breaking story. and coming up: tucker will be back with us to discuss the crisis of american man hood. plus, president trump insist out government won't we open until he has money for his wall. but, if he gets it, will that wall work? that's next on "tucker carlson tonight." ♪ ♪ my experience with usaa
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by court rules and now releasing hundreds of migrants onto the streets of el paso. the message to future migrants, of course, is that america is powerless to stop them from settling here. fox's jonathan hunt is here with more. jonathan? >> good evening, mark. homeland security secretary kirstjen nielsen says the immigration system is at breaking point. border patrol agents say they are overwhelmed. around 1,000 immigrants have been released onto the streets of el paso, texas, this week alone. and two young immigrant children have died after being taken into custody by customs and border protection agents. the first deaths of children in cpp custody in a decade. in el paso immigration and customs enforcement officials say they have little choice but to release those hundreds of immigrants because of, quote. decades of inaction by congress that they say has limited their ability to remove families who are in the u.s. illegally and have set limits on how long they
can hold those families so they are being dropped off at bus station in el paso where aid groups are offering support. more by the way are expected to be released today. >> they have spent 8 to 10 days in cells. now they have been released what we have been doing as a community is to support them. giving them food and a place to stay at night. >> president trump has repeatedly said the era of so-called catch and release has ended but, frankly, that is exactly what is happening in texas right now. and it all comes against the back drop of the government shutdown over president trump's demand for a border wall that he says could stem the flow of illegal immigration. the wall and, of course, the deaths of those two immigrants children will no doubt top the agenda when homeland security secretary nielsen visits the border area in el paso, texas friday and huma, arizona
saturday. mark? >> mark: just to be clear on that, jonathan, ice can hold these people if that chap is right for 10 days or whatever and meanwhile they are given a two year court date gap between 10 days and two years they get to hang out in america. that's the idea, is it? >> right. what ice is saying is that under the current laws they have no choice but to release these immigrants after that time frame and, therefore, they take them to the bus station and then, yes. essentially they are free to go where they wish to do as they please. mark. >> mark: that seems a bit of a design flaw, jonathan. while migrants continue to pour into the united states. critics of the president maintain nothing can be done because the wall is useless. cnn recently ranted about the futility of mankind's oldest defensive mechanism. >> this whole issue is a crock from start to finish. he picked it up on the
campaign trail as something to appease the masses and play to his base. it's not going to stop terrorism. it's not going to be 2,000 miles long as originally planned. it's not going to be see-through. it's not going to be echo friendly or flats or beaded curtain or anything else. you can't wall that border. >> mark: jimmy kimmel meanwhile has been ridiculing americans so desperate for a secure border they have been waiting to donate to a go fund me campaign for it. this trump support are a guy named brian started a go fund me campaign to raise a billion dollars for the wall. he launched it on sunday. it's already up to almost $9 million. this is what people do with their disposable income when they don't have loans from college to pay off. [laughter] donating money for a wall that will never exist, it's like starting a college fund for harry potter. [laughter] it's more useful thing to do with your money would be to go outside and feed it to a bird. you do have to admire the
sacrifice, they are making. a lot of these people are dipping into their meth money for this. >> mark: got it meth heads for national security. thank you, jimmie. would a wall work or not. jason piccolo is a former special eight and supervisor with the department of homeland security and he joins us now. everybody is morning this. we have had nancy pelosi doing her beaded curtain line at this stage i would welcome a 2,000-mile beaded curtain along the southern border it would show a certain kind of resolve. are these critics right that this thing doesn't work, doesn't make any difference, a complete waste of time? >> no. it will work. the border is 2,000 miles lock. you went be able to actually wall the whole border. but that will create choke points or points where we can actually apprehend the immigrants coming. in yes, the wall would work. >> what's interesting to me if you look up on the northern border where there is far fewer people coming across.
not caravans amassing on the 49th parallel. yet the united states government has actually put physical barricades in a lot of cross border towns on the canadian border presumably because it works there. so, why would it not work on the mexican border? >> walls work. they do. now, when i worked on the border, the border was simply a strand of fence in some areas. like a strand of wire. now, you have narcotraffickers coming across that same area migrants. it's open. the whole border is pretty much open except for a few miles here and there. when you say it's open because most people who do cross international legitimately like they do so border posts. even though you talk about that incessantly. there are 100-mile stretches where people can just walk into the united states.
a come within on orange alert. >> yeah, definite live. >> i was on the smuggling cell in 2015 and we tracked of human smug glir coming up from south america. you do have them traveling through brazil and up those same routes that migrants and narco-traffickers are using. anyone can come and go through that border. >> mark: you mean when you say special interest aliens, you mean that potential jihaddists have figured out -- they look at what is on their tv screens on the rio imrand and figure trying to fly to jfk you might as well go into' and walk. >> you can the border is open. i detailed back in the early 2,000 and it was literally one strand of barbed wire. so, yes, nibble could walk across that brtdz when november fairous intend are
with coming here for economic migration. >> a strand of bausch you have had wire seems more useful than the beaded. >> thank you for the eyewitness testimony. i don't know if people visualize it quite the way you know it coming up, tucker is going to be here to discuss the declining fortunes of american men and paris is still coping with riots after the government tried to levy a carbon tax. why do lawmakers want a carbon tax here? that's next. ♪ ♪ if you have psoriasis, little things can be a big deal. that's why there's otezla. otezla is not a cream. it's a pill that treats moderate to severe plaque psoriasis differently. with otezla,75% clearer skin is achievable. don't use if you're allergic to otezla. it may cause severe diarrhea, nausea, or vomiting. otezla is associated with an increased risk of depression. tell your doctor if you have a history of depression or suicidal thoughts, or if these feelings develop.
in what's been a very tumultuous end to the year. like these algorithms fell face down in the eggnog. the french has been rioting for more than a month now after emmanuel macron's government tried to impose anti-global warming gas tax upon them. nevertheless, a lot of americans, including the outgoing senator jeff flake think it's time for america to have its own carbon tax. is that wise? mark reynolds is executive director of the citizens climate lobby and he joins us. mark, when you see what's happening in france, that's a more extreme version of what happens when carbon taxes are actually put into place elsewhere. people don't seem to like it. don't seem to care for it. >> first of all, thanks so much for having me on the show. the nice thing about the energy innovation and carbon dividend act is that it actually puts money in people's pockets. so i think there are people
who are suffering both here and in other countries. i think that the reason there is so much republican support on both the house and the that th senate version s bill it sends allocates money back to households so they are prepared to deal with whatever they have to. and, again, doesn't tell them what to do with that money just let's them make a choice about what they want to do with it. >> this is the bill being proposed and the carbon tax being proposed in the in the united states under the proposal supposedly then gives money back to households. but, here's one big problem with it, mark. basically the automatic increases kick in i think starting around 2022 and they basically go all the way up until mid century. it's beyond the control of other congresses. it just becomes like intittledment program that gets automatic increases every year. and is beyond the control -- you can't go to a polling station if you don't like it if the facts change if the
dependent on maligned saudi shakes spread their wahhabi view around the world. carbon tax is going to kill american energy independence. >> there is something interesting happening right now there is a race to the new energy economy. it's probably going to be either us or china. china is making a huge investment. i'm certainly hope it does. i think it bill creates enough incentive throughout the entire economic system to create all the type of innovation that we know we need. >> there is no carbon tax in china. the most polluted river in the world. what's coming down that stream every day is nothing you would want any of your kids to be gambling and fraw licking in. what the french protesters object to this is their lives. it's not a theory. it's not a mac degree
economic theory. if it's a choice between sea levels and the 22nd century or how they have to live their lives in the century they are actually living in, they will prioritize the reality of their lives over speculation a century hence. >> yeah. i think that's why so many republicans like this bill in both the house and the senate is because money is actually returned. you get a monthly check and then it's your choice what do you with it i'm not going to tell you what to do with the money. the government is knot going to tell you, it's up to american households to determine what they do. >> they always say that and then it goes newt general fund. the gasoline taxes. they were showss supposed to become that we will see how it works out. i don't see the public appetite for it mark, thank you for talking with us today. and happy post -- >> thank you for having me on. let me just say for the people who are watching, there someone of our chapters in every community out there from boise, idaho
to birmingham, alabama. if you want to work with big solutions we have a big tent and like to be in your neighborhood. >> mark: big tents we like and won't keep them with conventionial ernesto prizes. >> time for tucker's final exam. have you been following the news over the christmas period, find out if you can remember it better than the big time professionals here at fox. that's up next. ♪ ♪ the american dream isn't a handout it's something you work for when i couldn't afford college college of the ozarks gave me the chance to work for my degree i'll graduate debt free from a college where character is as important as class work and patriotic education is part of the curriculum we are hard work u and we are working for our american dream
>> time for tucker's final exam where the news professionals are interrogated. see if they can actually remember the events they cover every day. this week's final examine is a new york special. we have kennedy, the last nonguest host in the building. and also with us from fox news headlines 24/7 carley shimkus and actually speaking of guest hosting, carley will actually be in this slot on monday night but for some reason we're going to stick her outside for the duration of the show and then kennedy will follow
carley. so this is the fox new year's eve team. you will get a heads up on it and worth tuning. in contestants, hands on buzzers. i'm going to ask the questions. the first one to buzz in questions tgets to answer. you shall answer once and i shall acknowledge you rules set by game show committee in gentleman n.i.e. havgeneva.ar just blasted alexandria ocasio-cortez, calling her a shiny new object with cheap rhetoric. which lawmaker made those remarks? and it's kennedy. >> clair mccaskill. >> mark: clair mccaskill, let's roll that tape.
>> i don't know her. i'm a little confused why she is the thing a good example of what i'm talking about. a bright and shiny new object. the rhetoric is cheap. getting results is a lot harder. >> mark: meow. milk for senator mccaskill. >> don't let the door hit you where the lord put you mccaskill. >> mark: first plug to kennedy. head to question two. this is critical for carley otherwise she will be losing that new year's eve gig. question two. former first lady michelle obama is now the most admired woman in all of america, that's according to a new gallup poll. but to get there, michelle obama had to pump another woman had had held onto the top spot for 17 years. who was the other woman? and it's kennedy again. >> kennedy: just a guess from me anyway, hillary clinton. >> mark: come on, hillary clinton, the most admired
woman in america? are you kidding me? let's roll that tape. >> michelle obama has overtaken hillary clinton as the most admired woman in the country. clinton held that top spot on that list for 17 years. what does that say about hillary now? >> i wanted to say oprah because i feel like that truly is one of the most admired women in america. but i think hillary is now third. >> oprah is number two. it's a tragedy for hillary. she was once the most admired woman in america. >> i blame the are latvia bot farm. >> we are clearly on that list as well four and five. >> mark: macedonia farm. it's 2 to zip. come on, carley. you don't want to be outside on new year's eve. we will give you a studio if
you can turn this thing around. >> okay. >> mark: question three, we recently told you about a popular calendar in russia which features various images of a shirtless vladimir putin. that same calendar is now a monster hit in another country and is outselling ones featuring puny hom homegrown celebrities. which country is it. >> i don't know. >> mark: kennedy contend united states? >> united states? doesn't sound likely. >> i'm blushing. flying off the shelves in japan. of all places. a chain of lifestyle stories indicate calendars are their top seller. >> president featured dipping into a hot tub and posing with a fish rob rob 60 years old not looking too bad. cuddle wag leopard. popularity of the calendars
fueled by a surge in self-proclaimed putin fans. get them while they are hot, ladies. puty. >> mark: nothing more a lady likes than being in a hot tub with a kgb torturer. kennedy lost one. still everything to play for. 2-0. >> 1-0. >> mark: 1-0. >> i lost a point. i thought i kept and it kept the other two. >> mark: you lost it. you are in huge trouble now. crisis on the international space station. something mysterious was found by astronauts inside a capsule that recently docked there and russian officials say it's the result of a major breach. what was it they found? a a sharp knife. b a tiny hole or, c, a jar of pickles? and it's the trigger happy
kennedy yet again. >> jar of pickles. >> mark: jar of pickles. >> i was going to go with a. >> mark: let's roll that tape. a matter of life and death. a tiny hole discovered in russian capsule that docks at the international space station. at first scientists suspected the hole was caused by a meteorite strike. >> good unon instructed view now of that black spot that's the hole on the external hull. >> a russian cosmonaut who examined the hole believes it was drilled from inside the capsule. [buzzer] >> i'm learning a lot opt show. >> mark: if you are a russian cosmonaut just plug that hole with a picture of vladimir putin chestless in the hog trough that will take care of it kennedy has lost another point. it's now zero, zero. this is sudden death. >> this is the lowest scoring game.
>> mark: lowest score in this show. >> maybe we have been dipping into the new year's eve champagne early. >> figy pudding there is a viral video of a colorado woman chasing down a thief who had stolen her christmas packages from her front door there is a special name given to people who steal in this way is it a a porch pirate. b a parcel poacher or c a package snatcher? and, carley, can we have a round of applause for this? carley succeeded in actually hitting the buzzer. didn't know hers work. >> if i get this right it is a win i do not deserve. >> mark: let's see? >> i'm going with a porch pirate. >> mark: porch pirate. roll tape. >> the scourge of the holiday season those pesky porch pirates intent on ruining christmas. one woman in lakewood, colorado has decided to take
matters in her own hands. >> i looked at my ring videos and i saw what happened. >> remember nay abeyta made her way through the neighborhood with her stolen. >> i thought no way is this happenings to me. >> give it i'm going to call the police. i got you on camera. give it to me now. i'm taping you. >> i didn't steal anything. >> yes, you did i saw you. throw it down. >> i would have ran as many miles as i had to to get my package. >> good for her. >> knightly didn't talk like that in porch pirates of the caribbean. this is a humiliation for kennedy. >> i don't deserve. this i feel like hillary clinton on election night. my victory was a sure thing, mark. >> kennedy did all the heavy lifting. >> i won the popular vote here. >> mark: you worn out your hand hitting that buzzer. carley hits it once and takes the trophy. >> can i say thank you so
much i believe that mug should go to kennedy. >> mark: come on, i can't stand this good sportsmanship. there is your tucker carlson mug. you will see these ladies in this time on monday. that's all for this week's final exam. pay attention to news this week and pay attention on thursday and see if you can do better than one buzz carley. tucker will be here next right after the break. ♪ ♪ if additional offers are what you desire, visit your john deere dealer before they expire. now, start up your engines and drive out of sight. new john deere equipment for all and to all a good night. see your john deere dealer today to discover more great deals and special financing offers. new year, new deere.
>> mark: tucker recently sat down to interview the author of a new book on the crisis afflicting american men. here's what happened. ♪ ♪ >> tucker: if you look at the numbers you quickly conclude that men are in crisis in america. compared to women, they are far more likely to drop out of 1k508, fail to graduate, go to jail. not hold a jail, commit suicide. die of a drug overdose and
yet the establishment, particularly democratic establishment seems uninterested in all of this. and they appear to think that men are still too successful and need ton held back. a former "new york times" reporter senior policy institute wrote an important new book called "man out, man on the sidelines of american life." he joins us in studio tonight. thank you for coming on. >> thank you, tucker. >> tucker: i don't think you are a conservative activist and i'm also grateful that someone is saying this because the numbers support that it is true. >> it is true. and as you say, the problem has really largely been ignored. i mean, democrats and a lot of people in the country don't see men as having problems. but there are a lot of men who are struggling. struggling with work. struggling in families. struggling with health. a lot of areas i touch on in my book. >> tucker: to such a great extent it would seem a crisis that effects everybody because, of course, men and women need each other to reproduce on
the most basic level but everybody has a father, a brother, a son. why do you think it's been ignored? >> well, it's been a lot of political correctness in this country that's kind of made the main narrative that women are the oppressed ones and they have been historically oppressed. but, you know, that doesn't mean that there aren't a lot of men struggling. i mean, you don't -- it's not a zero subgame. >> tucker: right. it's been presented as one. that one sex succeeds only when another moves backward. where did that assumption comes from. >> i think a lot of politics looks at things that way. i think it's pretty unfortunate. i think, you know, men have not been in many ways good at advocating for themselves. i mean, it's been interesting in the last few elections a lot of the political activists have been women hear more.
men aren't good at forming groups anymore. >> tucker: you work in mostly a liberal world. what kind of reaction did your piece get among people that you know? >> well, it's interesting, conservative media have tended to like it more. it's, you know, it's kind of troubling that this should be a bipartisan issue. i mean, all americans should be doing well or should have the opportunity to do well. and they should also have justice behind them. i mean, men are being accused wrongly. i mean, there are a lot of all of things that men do. don't get me wrong, sure. but, you know, the lack of due process in some of these sexual assault allegations it's, you know, it's pretty troubling. >> tucker: it's interesting the most progressive president the country has ever had fdr four terms, the first thing he did after
getting elected in 193 193 the very few piece through the congress was the conservation corps aimed at young men between 18 and 25. something like that. getting them back to work and restoring their vitality through work. what would happen if a democrat in the modern era suggested something like that? >> you think it would play well. while the unemployment statistics look good, there are a lot of young men pushed out of the labor force or dropped out there. are about 17, 18% of 25 to 64-year-old men who aren't working. and you know, there are a lot of younger men who are neither in school or working. so, you know, why is that? and, you know, why can't we create better jobs for them and, yes, i mean, you take a democrat would pitch some kind of jobs program. >> tucker: this is a longer conversation but i think the answer is toxic masculinity.
>> yeah. >> tucker: whatever that means. >> that's become the phrase dejurydejury, i guess. there are clearly questions with masculinity. i interviewed some men and some women about 200. a lot of men told me even liberal mental said well feminism has done a lot for women but wha what's it done for me. >> tucker: that's a fair question. ask you it in this book thank you for doing that. >> thank you. >> tucker: good to talk to you. >> good to talk to you. ♪ ♪ >> mark: one of the biggest stories of our time. so is this one. big tech has become the greatest threat to americans' privacy and personal freedoms but now americans seem to be wising up to that new survey finds that americans trust facebook less than any other company. also, a growing number of americans are seeking treatment for tech addiction as they find themselves unable to look away from
social media, their smart phones or video games. tom, a family therapist and author of "disconnected" how to reconnect our digitally distracted kids. i have read that book and so should you. and he joins us now. just to go with the tuck err, the big story of our time thing, when you look at this so-called tech addiction, and you follow where that leads, you do worry that in some ways these rinky dinky little things started as cat video sites are somehow basically rewiring humanity. >> if we counted the number of people walk by staring at their phones probably 77% doing that look at addiction, anything worry weather it's gambling, alcohol, drugs, anything that's considered addictive, if it's affecting one of the following four you could be diagnosed as that. the four things is it affecting your family? is it affecting your health?
is it affecting your job or occupation? and is it affecting -- have you had any legal issues? when we look at technology, we could check off each one of those for many people. addictive whether it's a debate or not i movie in it 100 percent. >> >> mark: being organized on a global scale with billions and billions of people. when you look at children, like middle schoolers who have never known anything but this world, their behavior does seem to be not where middle schoolers were 50, 70 years ago. >> it's actually unbelievable. i tell people i get more middle aged kids with major anxiety executive orders per year now than i did the prior 17 years combined. all the research is starting to show that the absorption of mainstream media. the lack of self. could at lack of the sense of self-and how it's
affecting your self-esteem anxiety impression and other mental health things. >> mark: people do seem to prefer it though. you have a see scene in your book young guy sitting in a bar. never know who is on the bar stool next to you. i can relate to that sometimes you find yourself sitting next to australia, hungarian you meet different people with different views. now like everybody is scrolling. >> if you go into the airport and travel. they have the screens in want from of every bear school school citizen he had of kicking it off everybody is distracted by devices. >> sometimes you want to go where only facebook knows your name. >> right. like bottles of wine dangling around if you are an alcoholic 24 hours a day, seven days a week. you can't escape from it. >> mark: that's a worriying thing. i think 24 is one the biggest stories of our time. i hate to think where we are going to be if we don't change it.
but how do we change it. >> it's not something that's going to happen overnight. creating awareness and conversations like he you and i are having right now. i'm one of the guys out there. that's lecturing and fighting about it and out there trying to get other people to do the same thing. it's a slow process. we are going to have to get there. >> mark: okay. well, we would hold you to that, tom. these companies are bigger than countries now. that is about it for us tonight. you can tune in each night at 8:00 to the show that the is sworn enemy of lying, pomposity, smugness and group think. and don't forget to dvr the though. that's less harmful, let's addictive than if you just go on facebook. don't bother with that. just dvh the show if you haven't set this up already. this is exciting moment. we are going to lift nancy pelosi's beaded curtain and find out who is guest
hosting for sean hannity tonight. who is it going to be? they have lifted the beaded curtain. i think i can see jason kennedy filling in for sean. jason sean. >> i all love it when you're on for tucker. >> that was a terrific interview you did with sam johnson today. everyone should look at that. that was the best thing on tv this morning. terrific stuff. >> thank you. thanks to fox and friends. later in the show we're going to tell you about sam johnson. a special man, amazing personality, a true american hero. thanks, mark. >> thanks, jason. have a great show. >> jason: welcome to this edition of hanty. i'm in tonight for sean. yesterday, president trump made a surprise visit to the al-assad air base in iraq where he visited the brave men and whip serving abroad during christmas. back at home the mainstream medish